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		<title>By: briwd2006</title>
		<link>http://briandblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/daily-linkathon-101/#comment-76</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mdsf, 

I don&#039;t know, but I suspect it has more to do with marketing and organization and a desire of leadership to be big and to keep growing. I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s doctrine, either. 

I do know these churches aren&#039;t stretched far beyond the capacity of their organization to run them. Systems are developed and put into place to manage the organization. I&#039;m not sure if it was Driscoll or Perry Noble (or someone else) but I read/heard some megachurch preacher talk about having to change systems every so often to keep up with the growth.

I could chalk it up to an American thing, but there are megachurches in Europe, Africa, South Korea (Cho) and Australia (Hillsongs). 

I&#039;d also credit consumer demand - if there wasn&#039;t demand for what the churches offer and the market couldn&#039;t support it, you wouldn&#039;t have these huge churches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mdsf, </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, but I suspect it has more to do with marketing and organization and a desire of leadership to be big and to keep growing. I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s doctrine, either. </p>
<p>I do know these churches aren&#8217;t stretched far beyond the capacity of their organization to run them. Systems are developed and put into place to manage the organization. I&#8217;m not sure if it was Driscoll or Perry Noble (or someone else) but I read/heard some megachurch preacher talk about having to change systems every so often to keep up with the growth.</p>
<p>I could chalk it up to an American thing, but there are megachurches in Europe, Africa, South Korea (Cho) and Australia (Hillsongs). </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also credit consumer demand &#8211; if there wasn&#8217;t demand for what the churches offer and the market couldn&#8217;t support it, you wouldn&#8217;t have these huge churches.</p>
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		<title>By: mdsf</title>
		<link>http://briandblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/daily-linkathon-101/#comment-75</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian --

I&#039;ve been thinking about this off and on all day, and I guess the best question I can think of is this: why do megachurches happen? Are there really economies of scale for large churches? Or does it have more to do with superior marketing/organization/whatever? 

Call me crazy, but I don&#039;t think doctrine is key; the churches on the Outreach list are of every different doctrinal stripe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this off and on all day, and I guess the best question I can think of is this: why do megachurches happen? Are there really economies of scale for large churches? Or does it have more to do with superior marketing/organization/whatever? </p>
<p>Call me crazy, but I don&#8217;t think doctrine is key; the churches on the Outreach list are of every different doctrinal stripe.</p>
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		<title>By: briwd2006</title>
		<link>http://briandblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/daily-linkathon-101/#comment-71</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mdsf, great question. 

How can one care for thousands? Answer: he can&#039;t, other than in a general sense and doing what he can to set up systems that train many people to provide that care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mdsf, great question. </p>
<p>How can one care for thousands? Answer: he can&#8217;t, other than in a general sense and doing what he can to set up systems that train many people to provide that care.</p>
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		<title>By: briwd2006</title>
		<link>http://briandblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/daily-linkathon-101/#comment-69</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty,

I thought it was a great post.

If I had to sum it up now, I&#039;d say, perhaps, &quot;American Evangelical Christendom is dying (dead?); long live the Church&quot;.

When it came time to write the intro in the main thread, I had NOTHING, and that&#039;s all on me. I apologize.

I&#039;ll cross out the original and put in my &quot;gem&quot; instead :)

Also, for you and everyone else, I&#039;ll put the link to Michael&#039;s interview with Tom Stipe (if you don&#039;t already see it in the PP RSS feed to your right).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty,</p>
<p>I thought it was a great post.</p>
<p>If I had to sum it up now, I&#8217;d say, perhaps, &#8220;American Evangelical Christendom is dying (dead?); long live the Church&#8221;.</p>
<p>When it came time to write the intro in the main thread, I had NOTHING, and that&#8217;s all on me. I apologize.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll cross out the original and put in my &#8220;gem&#8221; instead <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, for you and everyone else, I&#8217;ll put the link to Michael&#8217;s interview with Tom Stipe (if you don&#8217;t already see it in the PP RSS feed to your right).</p>
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		<title>By: mdsf</title>
		<link>http://briandblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/daily-linkathon-101/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>mdsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian --

Thanks for posting the links to the Outreach lists. I need to look through this list closely: I suspect I haven&#039;t heard of more than twenty of the men on either list.

I am starting to wonder if I know what a pastor is: how can anyone really be a pastor to two thousand people, let alone seven thousand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for posting the links to the Outreach lists. I need to look through this list closely: I suspect I haven&#8217;t heard of more than twenty of the men on either list.</p>
<p>I am starting to wonder if I know what a pastor is: how can anyone really be a pastor to two thousand people, let alone seven thousand?</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Duren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Duren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, I think Marty Duren&#039;s post is great!

Thanks for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, I think Marty Duren&#8217;s post is great!</p>
<p>Thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: briwd2006</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair warning: Some, perhaps many of you will not be happy with the #73 fastest-growing church on Outreach&#039;s list. Which also happens to be the #20th largest church on Outreach&#039;s list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair warning: Some, perhaps many of you will not be happy with the #73 fastest-growing church on Outreach&#8217;s list. Which also happens to be the #20th largest church on Outreach&#8217;s list.</p>
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