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Drifting

Have you “drifted” as a Christian?

Have you been red hot for a time, then lukewarm – or cold?

Do you believe those who drift are saved?

Or that they lose their salvation when they drift?

Do you believe that drifting is not normal for the average believer?

Or that, like Israel, all true, bona-fide Christians are prone to drift from time to time?

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  1. TonyP.
    August 26, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    Drifting as we speak, bro. Done it before, and probably will do it again. Haven’t lost my salvation yet as far as I know. πŸ˜€

    Sometimes the boulder is harder to push up the hill that others.

    I’m trying to learn to leave the boulder alone and just walk around the hill with my hand in Christ’s.

    Problem is, we get so inundated with needing to DO stuff. It makes it really hard, sometimes.

  2. BrianD
    August 26, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    What do you mean by the boulder, and how does that tie into drifting for you?

  3. TonyP.
    August 27, 2010 at 11:51 am

    You referrenced the hot vs cold issue. Most people when they feel “HOT” are into doing this and that, being on this committeee, attending ALL the services, being in on ALL the meetings… i.e. pushing the Christian “boulder” up the hill.

    A lot of folks, IMO, experience “drifting” because the church grinds them up. They should be able to say no to things, but many times when one is hot it leads to a get to work mind set.

    Many churches are at a shortage of people to do all the things they are attempting to do, so when folks start to do some things they get roped into everything.

    We strive to do, do, do far to often. This leads to much of the “drifting” that we see going around. All this is of course IMO and IME. Your mileage may vary.

  4. TonyP.
    August 27, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    Another thing on drifting. I think that for some folks it is a sign that they are maturing, as they begin to look deeper into things, truths and such, they find themselves drifting away from the patent ideas towards a deeper look.

    Again and experience from my own back yard. πŸ™‚

  5. TonyP.
    August 27, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    And yes, I think it is normal to find a bit of fear in drifting. We are very conditioned towards the idea that if we aren’t always “on fire” then there must be something wrong, we must not be as saved as the others who are. But I don’t see that drifting determines the salvation of the individual, if so how many would truly be “saved”. I think that maost if not all of the “heavy-weights” of Christianity have drifted about. Shoot, David did more than drift and God still claimed him.

    This is a subject near to me at this time in case you haven’t noticed. πŸ™‚

  6. BrianD
    August 27, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Tony…your comments are extremely helpful.

    I do think that absence from the body of Christ helps one to more easily drift – not necessarily into some spiritual shipwreck, but perhaps a little more away from where you should be if you’re doing and abiding like you should (does that make sense?).

    I too am prone to drift, and like the Israelites prone to wander from God…but He always brings me back.

  7. Na'amah
    August 31, 2010 at 12:50 am

    so i’m still processing the thought of ‘if you’re not chosen’ you cannot regenerate yourself…

    so this drifting idea, applied to no regeneration w/out God’s choice of you

    does this mean i’m fooling myself all these years walking through hot, cold, lukewarm…or just temperate and even if i ‘care’ or read His word unless i am one of the elect then i’m just dead

    Oy Vey ya all

  8. BrianD
    August 31, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    I don’t know…

  9. Na'amah
    September 4, 2010 at 2:48 am

    lolol one of the reasons i so enjoy reading your words and others here… is just that so honest response

    so we can sit in your ‘grill’ or ‘pub’ and converse about all the myriads of facets from our life experiences, things we’ve read…

    i do hope you have a restful weekend BrianD… or at least extended moments of peace filled contentedness in the here and now my cyberfriend

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